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going to have elections anyway, it doesn't bring it forward a lot earlier. is that the sense that you're getting? >> yes, it doesn't really change in terms of the timing. it just gives you an idea, though, of where berlusconi stands and what the situation is like within that central right next. the pdl has made it clear that there is a serious disagreement within the party. they were set to go forward with some primaries which is what the center left did to elect their candidate. and now that berlusconi has abruptly announced that he's going back, that tells you there is a lot of tension. he's trying to define the support, enough support in order to have some say in parliament even after the elections. an apparently he probably was not able to get that within his own party. as far as the situation overall is concerned, we did see the spread go higher and there are concerns. the minute you touch this jittery topic of the politics here in italy, the market gets very, very concerned. so what has come out officially by the president of italy is that he's officially not calling a consultat
looked at him and said you can't be serious. i never seen like it we have 7 weeks before election day andepped of the year. three of those weeks are wasted with this nonsense. >> y are talking about roughly. timothy depite gite saying we'll raise taxes 1.6 trillion and washington will increase taxes on capitol gains and we would like to say we like the power to raise the debt ceiling any time we want for the executive branch which is unconstitutional. >> steve: it is not 39 or 35 percent. all nonstarters in the world of negotiation. >> gretchen: two things to discuss. why is it tim geithner doing the discussions inted of the president of the united states. let me know if you have an answer for that. and the reason they are asking for this stuff. this is the way negotiations work when you win the presidency. you are walking around with your chest puffed up. this week, nothing will happen. until you cum come up right to the cliff. >> brian: this president is making a mockery of negotiations. he offered a initial trike with under 30 days until the cliff happens . sos the unserious attemp
of whose tax plan was chosen in the court of public opinion on election day. >> under my plan, first of all, 98% of folks who make less than 250,000, you wouldn't see your income taxes go up a single dime. all right? because you're the ones who need relief. but we're not going to be able to get it done unless we also ask the wealthiest households to pay higher taxes on their income officials $250,000. the same rate we had when bill clinton was president and our economy kree aed nearly 23 million new jobs. >> and there are reports that republicans are considering a doomsday plan should talks break down. according to senior republican sources the gop would allow a vote on extending bush tax cuts for the middle class and nothing more. under one variation of this plan, house republicans would vote present on the bill to voice their disapproval but still allowing it to pass entirely on democratic votes. >>> with hillary clinton wrapping up her final trip abroad as secretary of state, president obama is expected to announce his pick to replace her at the state department as early as this week. th
talking about every morning here since the election. fiscal cliff, big, big issue. there are now, it seems, growing numbers of people on both the right and the left who would like to see us just go over that fiscal cliff. how big of a problem would that be? >> that would be a big problem. i actually still believe that those -- the democrats, the administration, republicans in the final analysis don't want to see that happen. they do understand that not only would that present a problem in the near term as we went over the cliff at the end of the year, but we still then have the whole debt ceiling fight that would transpire shortly into the new year. the issue isn't simply the negative result of going over the cliff, but it's also that business, consumers, everybody continues to hold back on the uncertainty. and we believe the economy is pretty well positioned potentially in 2013 if we can put this behind us. so i think a lot of what's going on is what you would expect to see in this negotiation, very public negotiation, which is not the best way to do it. i think at some point, the preside
? there was an election. >> that was not a serious offer that was made. >> well, it was an offer and the republicans haven't made a serious or nonserious offer, joe. >> you've got to go through the house. where is the house plan? >> well, i don't know. but that's -- >> stay tuned. >> our guest hosts will be with us for the rest of the program. up next, we'll talk about monday morning markets. goldman sachs jim o'neill is our special guest. find out if europe or the fiscal cliff is keeping him up at night. >>> later, food for thought. our how dominos is handling economic conditions and their plans to hire for the holiday season. >>> do you think this group of people will find some common sense solution? >> yeah, i think they will. i'm not sure thooes they'll do it by december 1st. >> we know a lot about the opportunities are if they don't. >> in private, in my view, he'll get to something. >> we encourage congress to put aside the political rhetoric and rise above it to make sure we have revenue >>> welcome back, everybody. let's get a sense of where the market is heading in 2013. joining us right now is j
these negotiations. if he really was going to have an about face after the election and really concerned about the legacy, i actually disagree to a certain extent because i think that he thinks the first four years was his legacy. >> yeah. i think you're right to some extent. this is obviously we're speculating here. the president could, this might happen, might be a last minute razzle dazzle here, where he rushes in and they've already kind of agreed to a deal and he didn't get everything he wants, but he gets most of what he wants. he might envision something like that. i'm telling you, when i heard folks like lindsey graham over the weekend say, i don't think there is going to be a deal, that kind of stuck with me and maybe there won't be a deal. i'm not sure that's such a bad thing given what the alternatives are. >> steve: i'm sure you've heard or seen that apparently the republicans doomsday plan, if the talks collapse, allowed the vote on extending the middle tax class tax cuts, the senate passed that back in august, and the republicans would all vote present, then allow the democrats t
the election and he feels like he ought to be able to squeeze a heck of a lot out of them. and he's playing hardball. and the cost is that as you folks have noted, we definitely absolutely 100% will go into a recession if they fail. and by playing chicken like this, what the president is doing is telling people right now in december to stop their economic activity because there's this scary thing that might happen if the coin flip comes up. so i think that eat big problem right now. >> i initially read the "new york times" piece about boehner gaining some backing of the house. it's basically saying the guys that wouldn't have gone along with them before in caving are now ready to careful with them. so it's like the same article. >> i think it's 50/50 that we don't get that. i'm not exactly sure that the president doesn't think that if we question over the cliff, that he can blame that on republicans. and then try to fix it next year. but from a position of money. >> secretary geithner said they're ready to go over the cliff. >> and i think that they are. and it's really up to republicans to
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